https://eriecanalway.org/explore/watertrail
Paddling rentals https://eriecanalway.org/explore/watertrail/paddling-rentals
3 A) About the Route 360 miles
Most of the trail follows these canal and rail corridors and it is nearly level with an average grade of 1 percent. A few steeper grades and hill climbs can be found in the Mohawk Valley section on the trail's eastern half. Large sections of the trail are surfaced in stone dust from crushed limestone; however, some stone dust sections are being converted to asphalt paving. A range of bike types can be used effectively on the trail, including mountain and hybrid bikes, as well as road bikes equipped with wider tires (28 mm or more recommended). The two longest paved sections are at either end of the trail: from Albany to Schoharie Crossing and from Buffalo to Pendleton.
3B. NOTE PLEASE Watch these 4 videos before asking us questions covered there. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrjTUBzzeej2rSUNeDkAGK50-DndIm74i
Erie canalwww.youtube.com3C) These two websites also have Q an A, We have not done these trails so look for answers there, https://eriecanalway.org/explore/cycling https://www.traillink.com/trail/erie-canalway-trail/
4. There are several on-road gaps throughout the trail, but most are easily navigable with trail signage and road markings.
5. Please visit all the links and watch the videos to learn about the trails. Costs are not determined yet, we will update as soon as possible with estimated costs and dates. Your rsvp gets you into the dialog here. Please save your questions.
https://eriecanalway.org/explore/cycling https://www.traillink.com/trail/erie-canalway-trail/
6.We are offering other cordial enthusiasts to join us, we will share our costs once determined and this is a nonprofit self directed event. We are not your hosts. Just fellow adventurers. You can do whatever you like in terms of hotels, camping, visiting sites or activities and food choices.
a. in Buffalo July 4th first we will do the Shoreline Trail 21.7 miles x 2 ways =44 miles add on, and maybe bike around Niagra Falls to Canada too for possible total of 70 miles?
Possible route. https://ridewithgps.com/routes/46220699/
The Shoreline Trail in Erie County, New York, is 21.7 miles of flat, easy pathway that runs adjacent to Lake Erie, one of the country’s Great Lakes, on its southern half and then along the Niagara River on its northern half. The trail traverses the west end of Buffalo and is located just south of the famed Niagara Falls and near the Canadian border. It ends in Tonawanda, where you can pick up two more trails for more riding: the Two Mile Creek Greenway and the Tonawanda Rails to Trails.
The trail is paved throughout its entire length, making it wheelchair accessible. The large number of parking lots located near the trail the make it one that can be hiked or biked in its entirety as well as in sections. Numerous trailside parks also provide helpful amenities, such as restrooms, drinking water and picnic areas. Although part of the route runs adjacent to I-190, fencing and a wide grassy median keep the trail experience safe and pleasant.
The northernmost parking lot is located in Niawanda Park (200 Niagara St., Tonawanda). Several miles south, just before the Isle View Park, is another lot with room for about 20 cars. Just south of this lot is another lot with an even larger amount of spaces available. On the western side of Unity Island Park, which the trail passes through, there is a small round lot with room for about 15 cars. La Salle Park, which is located off the Niagara Thruway on Porter Avenue, offers a large parking lot as well. The southernmost parking lot is located a couple hundred feet south of where Fuhrmann Boulevard and Outerharbor drive meet, with room for around 25 cars.
We can also do https://www.traillink.com/trail/greenway-nature-trail/
Although only about a mile in length, Buffalo’s Greenway Nature Trail packs in the views. The paved pathway provides access to the city’s Outer Harbor not only for pedestrians and bicyclists, but also for fishermen and commercial boaters.
Parking can be found along Fuhrmann Boulevard.
then
b Erie Canalway Trail 360 miles, https://www.traillink.com/trail/erie-canalway-trail/
Day 1 on ECT 50 miles to comfort inn in medina ny 7/5
https://www.hotels.com/ho2396653216/comfort-inn-suites-medina-united-states-of-america/
$304
Day 2 on ECT
Biking 7.6.2024
To Rochester ny cumulative 98 miles 1579 elevation for 2 days, so that is 48 miles for day
Hilton Garden Inn Rochester/University & Medical Center
30 Celebration Drive, Rochester, NY, 14620 United States of America
$264.56 7/6=7/7
In Rochester, the trail connects to the
Genesee Riverway Trail, 22.8 x 2 = 46 add on option either day
By the early 1800s, Rochester had earned the nickname of Flour City because of its numerous mills that allowed the young town to rapidly become the largest flour producer in the United States. The flour mills were located along the Genesee River, whose waterfalls provided power to keep them running. Now, the Genesee Riverway Trail closely follows the river on its north–south course through Rochester, providing stunning vistas of the falls on the way.
While the waterfalls near the midpoint of the trail are a main attraction, there’s plenty more to see along the well-used trail. Begin your trip in the north at Ontario Beach Park, where the trail juts out into Lake Ontario along a pier offering panoramic views. Back on land, you’ll pass the park’s historical—and still operating—carousel from 1905. Follow signs to continue through the oft-crowded park and parking lots to meet the Genesee River for the first time. For a short distance, you’ll course between riverside docks and a rail line, in a configuration known as rail-with-trail.
Soon you’ll arrive in Turning Point Park, where a long and winding boardwalk transports trail users across the marshy Genesee River Turning Basin, which once served as a turnaround point for boats before they reached the river’s waterfalls, as well as a loading dock for ferries transporting rail cars full of coal. Back on land, the trail continues south as a rail-trail on the former line, eventually curving to meet Lake Avenue, where the trail then parallels the roadway. (Cyclists will need to pay attention, as the pathway eventually becomes unidirectional on both sides of the road, requiring a crossing for those traveling southbound.)
After transitioning briefly to sidewalks and bike lanes, the multiuse trail continues, unsigned, at Maplewood Drive. Signs resume where a turn to the left will take you across a trail bridge; take the turn for river views or direct access to the Seneca Park Zoo, designed by Frederick Law Olmsted. Back on the main route, the trail narrows as it passes under the granite-arched Veterans Memorial Bridge before emerging into a wooded corridor that displays spectacular colors in the fall months. You’ll be able to glimpse the river again too—while you began alongside boats docked in the river, the water now courses at a significant distance below you. The trailside Maplewood Park along this stretch provides an excellent stopping point, with a rose garden (and restrooms) likely to beckon.
Immediately after crossing Driving Park Avenue, you’ll reach your first waterfall. Lower Falls Park delivers spectacular views of the eponymous waterfall and attractive Driving Park Bridge, as well as interpretive signage. Just to the south, the Middle Falls lack views but provide an excellent reminder of the importance of the falls to Rochester, as you cross via the top of an active hydroelectric dam. Now on the eastern side of the river, the trail soon transitions once more to bike lanes and sidewalks on St. Paul Street that direct trail users to another crossing of the Genesee River on the Smith Street Bridge. Pause on the bridge to take in impressive views of downtown Rochester.
Back on the western side of the river, the trail again uses a former rail corridor to pass through industrial parts of the city before merging into the road network of the charming High Falls District—one of the oldest neighborhoods in Rochester. Pont de Rennes is a necessary visit; the converted road bridge offers cyclists and pedestrians unobstructed views of the High Falls from their namesake neighborhood. Look for physical reminders of Rochester’s industrial past in the gorge that surrounds the 96-foot waterfall—the main driver of the city’s industrial past.
Just before the trail passes through the High Falls District, it loses signage; trail users are advised to consult a map to proceed through Rochester’s downtown. Several sections are on sidewalk or road, while at other times the trail is a riverside promenade that will challenge cyclists and wheelchair users with stairs. At Court Street, the trail splits, offering trail users an option on either side of the Genesee River. No matter which route you choose, the river will be just a stone’s throw away, and you’ll marvel at the stillness of the water so close to the High Falls.
The eastern route passes through the campus of the University of Rochester, but two trail bridges spanning the river offer direct access to trail users on the western side. Those on the eastern side will need to cross the river at Genesee Valley Park (another Olmsted design), as the alternative will send you eastbound on the Erie Canalway Trail. Back on the Genesee River’s western bank, the trail continues a short distance to its end at a signed junction with the Genesee Valley Greenway near Greater Rochester International Airport.
Then bike to Newark Ny b and b
https://www.hotels.com/ho737128352/vintage-gardens-bed-breakfast-newark-united-states-of-america/
cumulative mileage 133.4 2059
not including genesee river trail, so 35 miles and 500 feet elevation not counting any add on
Next day Total mileage 194 3400, so 61miles 1400 feet to syracuse
$229 for 1100sf 2 bedroom suite with kitchen
Next day July 9thTo rome ny
Hampton Inn Rome 241 3800ft so 57mi / 400ft for day
I In Rome, the trail intersects the Mohawk River Trail. 3.8 miles x 2= 8miles
The Mohawk River Trail is a pleasant, shared use pathway connecting residential sites, local parks & schools, historical sites and business districts within the city of Rome, New York. At its southern end, the trail connects to the Erie Canalway Trail, a nearly 300-mile canal trail running the breadth of New York State.
You can kick off your journey at the trail’s actual beginning on Beacon Street, or you could choose to begin farther south at Bellamy Harbor Park right on the banks of the Erie Canal. From the latter to connect to the former, you have to travel via the sidewalk on Erie Boulevard until you get to Fort Stanwix National Monument, where you can pivot east towards the beginning of the off-road trail. The trail meanders north for a flat, easy ride or walk alongside the Mohawk River through a shaded riverine woodland. Past the Old Oneida County Cemetery, the Riverwalk stops at Chestnut Street and bends into Haselton-Wright Park.
318 5100 = 77mi 1300ft for the 10th
Final day biking ECT
To mile 378 cumulative without two add ons to Albany 6500 elevation so 60 miles and 1400 feet on Thursday 11th
Add 44 for shoreline trail in buffalo, July 4th?
Add 34 +- Genesee River trail Rochester option, July 7th on 35 mile day
Plus bike from Buffalo to Niagra Falls and around other cities to, guestimate plus 25 miles July 4th too?
so estimated 480 miles
4th through 11th is 8 days average 480/8 = 60 ave per day
Kevin and Paul plan to do above.
Some may want a possible option of biking to Toronto, which adds 133 miles x 2 ways or 266 miles if out and back or making total trip 800+- miles if we bike some around Toronto.
Toronto add on route possibility: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/26543358
Here is route without addons. https://ridewithgps.com/routes/46190270
215.0 km, +957 m. Bike ride in Toronto, Ontario
ridewithgps.com
7. We plan to take train between Buffalo and Albany, https://canalwaytrailtimes.org/2023/02/23/bikes-on-board-a-guide-to-using-amtrak-to-ride-the-erie-canalway-trail/
8. Costs are not determined yet; we will update as soon as possible with estimated costs and dates. Your rsvp gets you into the dialog here, commits you to nothing and costs you nothing.
VERY ROUGH estimate10 nights hotels at guess of $150 a night, 1500. Cut in half if you have/find roommate, you could camp tooTrain $60plus meals and getting to start pointBike rental $200?
9. Please save your questions until we or you do more research . Feel free to post any interesting things you learn doing your own research. As stated your rsvp here gets you into the dialog, your meetup RSVP commits you to nothing and costs you nothing. Don't make me feel bad for posting it by being a nudge. TYIA.
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Kayaking. Besides biking Paul hopes to kayak 2 times plus or minus. Must see link below.
https://eriecanalway.org/explore/watertrail
Paddling rentals https://eriecanalway.org/explore/watertrail/paddling-rentals
To see our hotel choices, of course you may camp or book wherever you like. https://funbiketrips.com/erie-canal-trail-hotels
Other things to do per hotels.com in our stops. https://funbiketrips.com/ect-nearby-options
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